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To: "'Edward Lewis'" <Ed.Lewis@Neustar.biz>, <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>
From: "Michael Young" <myoung@ca.afilias.info>
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 09:10:51 -0400
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Subject: RE: [ietf-provreg] Re: EPP Extensions for IDN

I know I certainly have the interest. We will have an updated version of the
older proposal up shortly.  That can be a starting point for discussion.

Michael Young
Afilias 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se [mailto:owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se] On
Behalf Of Edward Lewis
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 9:21 AM
To: ietf-provreg@cafax.se
Cc: ed.lewis@Neustar.biz
Subject: [ietf-provreg] Re: EPP Extensions for IDN

At 14:25 +0200 4/6/07, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
>On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 08:35:57PM +0900,
>  Yoshiro YONEYA <yone@jprs.co.jp> wrote
>  a message of 42 lines which said:
>
>>  Language information is important
>
>In the case you mention (chinese characters), yes, but it is not a 
>general rule.

When something is "in the case you mention" but "it is not a general rule"
then as a protocol developer, the protocol MUST support it but it's
use/inclusion is OPTIONAL.  (The exception is that the new feature CAN'T
conflict with an established feature.)  The goal of the protocol developer
of EPP is to have a specification that is universal even if policies are
not.

The case I raised involved Chinese and Japanese only because I have some but
still elementary knowledge on that topic (as you can see from the follow up
messages filling in my knowledge gaps and gaffs). 
Besides filling in what I don't know or got wrong, it would be good to have
any other language concerns raised - if there are any.  E.g., I hear rumors
of Arabic languages having yet another concern regarding representation in
DNS.  Perhaps the issue (unknown to me) is taken care of by including the
same meta-data, perhaps not.

To help us focus, the goal here isn't to argue over IDN (which we aren't
doing) nor argue over policies (which we also aren't doing) but to determine
what extension to EPP is needed to suit our collective needs.  While we are
not a WG anymore, we are still about the engineering and I at least find
this discussion enlightening.

BTW, is someone eager to document an IDN extension?  I ask as I believe
there was already an offer or older proposal that is waiting in the wings.

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