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To: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
Cc: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, pbernhard@cube.de, dnsop@cafax.se
From: "J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@club-internet.fr>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:40:07 +0200
In-Reply-To: <a05200d03b9dc0da3e04b@[10.0.1.60]>
Sender: owner-dnsop@cafax.se
Subject: Re: anycast

At 10:34 23/10/02, Brad Knowles wrote:
>At 1:56 AM +0200 2002/10/23, J-F C. (Jefsey)  Morfin wrote:
>>  project http://dot-root.com does not plan to be fully ready for a few 
>> weeks.
>         I have looked through a good portion of the site so far 
> (including the charter, etc...), and it is still not clear to me just 
> what exactly this group is proposing that they will do.  Clearly, a lot 
> of work has been done to put this together, but this is not being 
> communicated effectively to the casual observer.

I thank you for this comment. We are at organization phase until the year 
end. I proposed our cooperation since this is the kind of support we want 
to provide. Our target is to only to offer a turrn-key comprhensive test 
bed (machines, support, test users, test name spaces, monitors, etc.) to 
DNS related experiments and international name space related efforts. We 
want to be neutral to the carried studies a part from the operational 
aspects of having parallel roots systems collecting data in parallel, 
mutually monitoring their operations and offering compartive test results.

We would certianly appreciate every help to better present and develop the 
project: it is open to everyone.

>>  If we could be of help we would certainly be happy to support this.
>>  We have tested for more than 18 months to get the root file updated.
>         Meaning?

making the idea progress. Testing stability and learning to trust each 
other. Developping tools for automatic root generation. Having monitoring 
program tested. No big things but which take time.

>>  We would need help in getting gTLD zone files: our purpose is to
>>  be purely experiemental but one of the root is to serve as a reference
>>  and a support for ccTLDs and Govs and is to a strict copy of the ICANN
>>  data (it currently supports the corect IPs for all the German, Autrian
>>  and Greek Name severs).
>
>Many of the ccTLD zones are openly available for zone transfer. As of the 
>last time I checked, of the 256 total known TLDs (not including the root 
>zone) the following 163 TLDs (and the root zone) were available from at 
>least one server:
>
>                 ac ad al am an ao ar arpa as au aw az ba bd bg bj bm bn
>                 bo bs bt bv bw by ci ck cl cm cr cu cv cy cz dj dz ec edu
>                 ee eg er es fi fj fm ga gb gd ge gg gh gi gl gm gn gov gp
>                 gs gt gu gw gy hn hr ht hu id ie il im in int io ir is je
>                 jo ke kg kh ki km kn kz lb lc lk lr ly ma mc mg mh mk ml
>                 mm mn mq mr ms mt museum mv mw my mz nc ne ng ni np pa pe
>                 pg pk pl pro pw py qa ro ru sa se sg sh si sj sk sl sm sn
>                 so st su sv sz tc tf th tj tm tn to tp tr tt tv tz ua ug
>                 uk um uy ve vg vi vn vu ye yu za zm zw

Thank you for this precious information in maintaining our IANA table.

>I would encourage you to get a copy of the root zone from B, C, or F, and 
>then try to do zone transfers from all the advertised servers for each 
>TLD.  I went about it a slightly harder way -- I reconstructed the root 
>zone from information publicly available elsewhere, and then got copies of 
>all of the above.

Did you find discrepancies with the internic ftp file?

>Note that I am going to be addressing this topic in my invited talk at 
>LISA 2002.

Where is that?
Are you in Brussels? I plan being there on Nov 22 for a presentation at the 
Haute Ecole?
Regards.
jfc


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