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To: ietf-provreg@cafax.se
From: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@ca.afilias.info>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:21:28 -0400
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Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates

Hi,

Taking my cue from your .sig, I have a feeling I don't know what
you're thinking here (since I think I don't understand this).  

On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 12:07:12PM -0400, Edward Lewis wrote:
> 
> I think it's clear that there's a demand (as in supply and demand) 
> for coordination of work involving the EPP protocol.  However, I 
> don't think there's  justification for an IETF-style working group.

I read that to mean that you think that there are some people who
think that EPP needs work, but that such work shouldn't go on in an
IETF wg.  And I agree with you that simple changes to the documents
don't need a working group.  

But I'm not sure I follow the subsequent arguments that the IETF is
the wrong place to pursue updates or changes to the protocol.

I appreciate that the IETF doesn't always attract all the registrar
and registry people we might like for feedback on these issues; but
that's a problem I'd suggest we solve by soliciting the feedback of
people in those communities, and _not_ by trying to take our protocol
developments to some other forum.  I have no direct experience of
CENTR, but my few experiences with ICANN committees &c. have left me
with a very strong impression that the technical knowledge does not
there exist to do good protocol development.  That's no indictment of
ICANN: they're doing their policy work, and relying on the technical
community of the Internet to do the technical work.  That community
works within the IETF, no?

There does seem to be a live question of whether all the issues
everyone has identified with EPP can be accommodated without a
protocol change (including, of course, by instead developing
extensions).  So far, I'm not totally convinced; but I'd sure like to
be, which is why I'm pursuing these conversations now.

A

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