To:
Edward Lewis <lewis@tislabs.com>
Cc:
ietf-provreg@cafax.se, lewis@tislabs.com
From:
Richard Shockey <rich.shockey@neustar.com>
Date:
Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:01:42 -0400
In-Reply-To:
<v0313030bb7ab04bd68d1@[199.171.39.21]>
Sender:
owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se
Subject:
Re: About the Push vs. not Push Resend ?
> > >I am curious about where folks are coming from, not for counting or voting. >I see a lot of discussion that seems to be prompted from the gTLD >community's contractural dealings with ICANN and then reverse discussion >from some ccTLDs, and not much from "others" - including the RIR's. I'm sorry if this gets posted twice by I did not see it show up on the list. Apologies if it did. Well Ed .. I'm afraid I have a slightly different view here : >After going through the email and minutes, I think that there is a need to >poll the list to see if folks want the "push" mechanism to be defined or >not. As far as the merits of such a mechanism, please refrain from >commenting on that, as it appears in archived messages. My sense is that >we aren't arguing the merits of push, but rather, whether implementors >would be willing to add this feature in response to user (registr*) needs. In the interest of trying to create a complete and extensible protocol there no good reason not to include push mechanisms, or the use of BXXP for that matter. I would like to remind the list that the protocols being developed here may have uses outside TLD's in the future and arbitrary attempts to restrict its functionality purely to satisfy the limited requirements of that special interest group is "a bad thing" tm. Though the RIR's may not be ready to use the output of this group at this time I feel it incumbent on myself to make sure that their options are not foreclosed. If you don't want to use push mechanisms you don't have to. Why is it so difficult to develop a good registration provisioning protocol first and then see how it can be adapted to the needs of the TLD community vs this narrow and parochial view that if it isn't useful for TLD's then who cares. And I say that as the co-Chair of the IETF ENUM working group....and FYI Scott Hollenbeck has recently posted a most interesting and thoughtful draft on how some of the work going on here might be adapted to RFC2916. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-00.txt And though this draft does not specifically discuss the seemingly endless layer 9 issues of transport and push I would like it known that might be useful to ENUM implementers in the future and there are discussions going on in several countries on how 2916 might be deployed and the work of this group could ,in that context, set an important precedent. So Yes to push. >In your response, let me know which registr*'s you are speaking for, so >that we can determine if there is a pattern to differing opinions (e.g., >gTLDs vs. ccTLDs). If you feel that you don't want to disclose this >publicly, please send the message to just "jaap@sidn.nl, lewis@tislabs.com" >- ie the chairs. If you do this, it might be a good idea to send a public >version of your message to the list so others know how you feel on the >issue. and if you havent already figured it out I have a TLD interest here as well . I work for NeuStar who is a JV operator of .BIZ with our partners Melbourne IT. >I am looking more for a demographic behind the opinions than size. If >there is a systemic difference of opinion, then it is easier to try and >adjust the solution - I hope. > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >Edward Lewis NAI Labs >Phone: +1 443-259-2352 Email: lewis@tislabs.com > >You fly too often when ... the airport taxi is on speed-dial. > >Opinions expressed are property of my evil twin, not my employer. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 Voice 571.434.5651 Cell : 314.503.0640, Fax: 815.333.1237 <mailto: rshockey@ix.netcom.com> or <mailto: rich.shockey@neustar.com> <http://www.neustar.com> <http://www.enum.org> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<