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To: briansp@walid.com (Brian W. Spolarich)
Cc: bmanning@isi.edu (Bill Manning), george@register.com (George Belotsky), paf@cisco.com (Patrik Faltstrom), shollenbeck@verisign.com (Hollenbeck Scott), ietf-provreg@cafax.se
From: Bill Manning <bmanning@isi.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:00:13 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <IPEMICCPDPPICMIONJIOKELKCDAA.briansp@walid.com> from "Brian W. Spolarich" at Mar 08, 2001 01:40:00 PM
Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se
Subject: Re: Unique handle generation

% 
% > 	I like the idea of a timestamp, but I don't want to remember it
% > 	as part of my handle.
% 
%   Hi.  I'm "Brian W. Spolarich-RIPE-984076683".
% 
%   Ick. :-)
% 
%   -bws


	Well...  the American Registry for Internet Numbers got ARIN.
	Does that mean the Argentian Registry for Internet Numbers gets ARIN2 ?

	Under the new RIR structure, I am assigned WM110-<rir-handle>
	Under the old, single IR structure, I was assigned WM110.
	Under the earlier IR structure, I was assigned WMAN

	A couple of problems. 
	There is a problem with internal vs external tagging. e.g.
	the registrar should not expose their internal tagging of client
	handles.
	Then there is the debate on dealing w/ duplicates. The approch
	currently in use is to assign a monotonically increasing number
	to initals.  Patrik has refined this to using a timestamp.
	(warning... curveball ahead...:)
	And then there is the use of initals.  Not everyone uses ASCII.
	How will "handles" support non-ASCII character representations?

	Endgame... I think I should be able to select the "seed" be which
	my Internet-wide, unique handle is created. My seed is used to
	generate a unique handle that has at least two other, non-Internet
	related "salts".  So my handle might be:

		WM-9387-19790922:09:27:33

		My initals, the last four characters of my national
	registration card, and the date/time stamp I first logged ito
	an IP-supporting node.

	ARINs could be:

		ARIN-8866-19970110

		Their initals, the last four characters of their TaxID,
	and the date of first operation.

YMMV... 

	
-- 
--bill

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