RE: (ngtrans) Joint DNSEXT & NGTRANS summary

["Christian Huitema" <huitema@windows.microsoft.com>]

Paul,
 
Just for the record -- Microsoft as a corporation did not try to sway this issue one way or the other; individual IETF contributors who happen to work for Microsoft have various opinions in this debate. OTOH, we are shipping software, and we would really want the debate to be resolved very soon.
 
-- Christian Huitema 

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Paul A Vixie [mailto:vixie@vix.com] 
	Sent: Tue 8/7/2001 9:00 AM 
	To: Alexis Yushin 
	Cc: James Aldridge; Jim Bound; Matt Crawford; ngtrans@sunroof.eng.sun.com; namedroppers@ops.ietf.org; ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com; dnsop@cafax.se 
	Subject: Re: (ngtrans) Joint DNSEXT & NGTRANS summary 
	
	

	> I see a big difference between deprecating/moving to historic and changing
	> status to experimental. Experemental implies further development.
	
	I don't see that difference here.  Just as "let's let the market decide"
	really just means "let's do whatever Microsoft wants", so it is that "let's
	make it experimental" really just means "let's move on."  (I find it amusing
	that SRV was experimental but that Microsoft's use of it pulled it forward.)
	
	I was not able to be in London, but had I been there my comments would've been:
	
	        Let's not expect stub resolvers to do the caching necessary to
	        understand either A6 or SIG/KEY -- those are things which servers
	        ought to use to talk to other servers.  Stub resolvers making
	        recursive requests of their name servers should be using AAAA and
	        TSIG.  AAAA synthesis of underlying A6, and TSIG to protect
	        verified KEY/SIG data for the last mile, is all a client needs.
	        Every argument against SIG/KEY or against A6 comes down to either
	        the caching problem or the complexity problem, and if we insulate
	        the end-stations from those problems, the arguments are reduced to
	        things which authority-side tools can be made to cope with.
	
	Hopefully this point was made by somebody.