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To: warlord@MIT.EDU (Derek Atkins)
Cc: bmanning@isi.edu, jas@extundo.com, jseng@pobox.org.sg, keydist@cafax.se
From: Bill Manning <bmanning@isi.edu>
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:02:52 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <sjmu1qkgajv.fsf@kikki.mit.edu> from Derek Atkins at "Apr 9, 2 11:24:04 am"
Sender: owner-keydist@cafax.se
Subject: Re: Let's assume DNS is involved

% Bill Manning <bmanning@isi.edu> writes:
% 
% > % The caches that will cache keys/certs will be the caches within the
% > % organizations that chosed to either put keys/certs in DNS or use
% > % keys/certs from DNS.
% > 
% > 
% > 	Say what? I have never seen a caching DNS server that selectivly 
% > 	caches data.  The caches that will cache key/cert data will be
% > 	those caches which receive RRsets that include key/cert data.
% 
% Right, but the only caches that receive RRsets that include key/cert
% data are the caches that sit in front of organizations that _use_
% key/cert data.  If an application/resolver never requests key/cert
% data, it will never hit a cache (because a DNS Server will never
% arbitrarily send a key/cert RRset in a response).
% 
% This means that caches in front of key/cert-using users are more
% likely to see key/cert RRsets than caches sitting in front of users
% that DONT use key/cert records.
% 

	Are you stating that there can exist a key/cert RRset that
	is independent or (not bound to) a larger RRset that would
	also include either an A or PTR rr?

	I always thought that an rrset would consist of:

	woozle	in	a	300.0.0.300
			cert	"x509 thingie"
			sig	"sig thingie"

	and that
	
	woozle	in	cert	"x509 thingie"
			sig	"sig thingie"

	would not be correct.  Time to check the code... :)

	If a sig/cert rrset can exist w/o an associated A/PTR
	rr, then I will agree w/ you.  If not, then I think
	that caching servers will try and store all kinds of 
	stuff that they may not "normally" expect.


-- 
--bill

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