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To: <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>, "Edward Lewis" <edlewis@arin.net>
Cc: <edlewis@arin.net>, "Jaap Akkerhuis" <jaap@sidn.nl>
From: "Ram Mohan" <rmohan@afilias.info>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:15:37 -0400
Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se
Subject: Re: our two past-due deadlines

ed,
i'm interested in the EPP Extensions Guidelines doc, and look forward to
reviewing it prior to stating my opinion re: adoption.

-ram
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward Lewis" <edlewis@arin.net>
To: <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>
Cc: <edlewis@arin.net>; "Jaap Akkerhuis" <jaap@sidn.nl>
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:08 AM
Subject: our two past-due deadlines


> According to the automated powers that be we are overdue on two items:
>
> # PROVREG:Sep 2002:First draft of EPP Extensions Guidelines draft
> # PROVREG:Sep 2002:First draft of EPP over SMTP
>
> The first - Scott has a personal submission in the hopper and the
> chairs already asked if the group wanted to adopt or not.  No one
> replied.  Based on an earlier call for the doc - at our last in
> person meeting, The chairs are going to ask Scott and the I-D people
> to add the doc to the WG (name change and put it on the charter page).
>
> The second - Eric has a document not in the I-D repository and "NOT
> offered in accordance with Section 10 of RFC2026" on the EPP/SMTP
> topic.  As such, the document isn't eligible to be "just transferred"
> into the group even though it is publicly available and a reference
> to it exists in the mailing list archives.  The (one) eligibility
> hurdle is the prohibition of the IETF to make changes to the document.
>
> So the question remains open, but with at least more input on the
> topic available, whether an SMTP draft will be produced.
>
> To the previous volunteers: unless you either express interest again
> or produce a document or documents as personal products, the chairs
> will consider you as "unvolunteering."
>
> The chairs are reluctant to just choose an editor(s) for the draft
> *in the absence of a demand for us to do so*.  This is because it is
> up to the WG members to determine if this draft is desired and to
> support its development.  The chairs shouldn't be determining the
> course of the group, but making sure the group adheres to the charter
> and makes headway into solving our problems.  (So much for the
> soapbox.)
>
> So - if the volunteers are still interested, say so or better yet
> submit works that the WG can edit.  If the group wants to an editor
> to be named, let the chairs know...
>
> But please let the chairs get our milestones moved!  You don't know
> the horrors of the IETF Secretariat torture chamber.
> Drip-spam-drip-spam-... ;)
> --
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> Edward Lewis                                          +1-703-227-9854
> ARIN Research Engineer
>


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