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Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine <brunner@nic-naa.net>
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Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:29:54 -0800
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Re: Call for agenda items for Minneapolis
> Nice to see you jump in on this. You are right, it IS an informational I-D > as an individual submission to the WG. What do you think? Registries have policies. Policies can be generalized until one or more mechanism(s) are identified that allow a class or classes of policies. We could see informationals from every registry, each full of specific utility and gratifying some specific external audience -- Karen Rose in the case at hand -- but not intended for implementors of interoperable services. An I-D could be useful, contain the grain of an idea that is generally useful, and scoped policy is a generally useful idea. We are, as a group, still working on policies that span scopes, e.g., data collection and the multi-jurisdictional registration systems and the trans-jurisctional flow of registrations within a single registration system. Scope tied to a namespace is already in "our scope", so submission "to the WG" is either late or redundant. Turning to the specifics: What NeuStar proposed in addressing the nexus requirement was: registrars obtain (from registrants) certification that o the US DoC's nexus requirement is met, and o the manner in which the requirement is met There is no protocol requirement here. The provisioning of registrars by registrants, however done, and consisting of whatever data, is outside the scope of this registry provisioning protocol. As Scott has pointed out many times, there are issues that are adequately covered by contract, and need not have any articulation within a protocol. This is just such a case. In addition, NeuStar proposed to check selected data provided by the candidate registrant, e.g., valid US ZIP code. There is no _new_ protocol requirement in this statement either. Finally, NeuStar proposed to check the information provided for the primary and secondary nameservers identified by the (registrant|registrar). There is no _new_ protocol requirement in this statement either. As to a "Purpose" requirement, this appears to be outside of the scope of SB1335-01-Q-0740, and therefore, an _operator_ specific feature. As it happens, there are at least two efforts to provide label semantics for UR*s, the W3C PICS effort, and the W3C P3P effort. As it happens, I've worked on both. It is possible that a scoped vocabulary (like PICS attempted in a historic US policy context, or P3P has established w.r.t. privacy in a synthetic three-theories (EU/OEDC/US) context) could be a generally useful extension to a registry provisioning protocol, and of interest to implementors of interoperable systems. I missed something however in this draft. I would have said the same thing six weeks ago. As a personal comment, the idea of using the IETF to publish a national code concerning the classes of persons authorized to use the Internet is not one that comes naturally to me. Section 3.2 More minutia Section 7. Internationalization considerations are about characters and text. Just being "in" one nation state doesn't automatically remove the problem of i18n considerations. Use: These parameters do not introduce any additional international considerations other than those specified for EPP contact object mapping [5]. Section 8. Registry (implementor) private parameters can't require IANA action. Use: "None." Section 9. See 7 above. s/i18n/sec/ Eric