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To: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine <brunner@nic-naa.net>
cc: "Paul M. Kane" <Paul.Kane@REACTO.com>, ietf-provreg@cafax.se, "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>, brunner@nic-naa.net
From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine <brunner@nic-naa.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 11:23:46 -0400
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 27 Sep 2001 09:49:01 EDT." <200109271349.f8RDn1c00719@nic-naa.net>
Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se
Subject: Re: "opt-in" schema

The dan.ca <check> against the .com registry example ...

Distinct namespaces, see also inextant registries, e.g.,

	name.non-iso3166-ccTLD-2LA
or
	name.not-in-icann-g-or-sTLD-set
or
	name.alternate-root-registry-name-same-as-icann-root-registry-name
	(e.g., Ms. Gallagos' .biz in the ARNI root)
or
	name.<null>

Not to flog a dead horse unduly, but as registries can't initiate instances
of communication (absent a pending non-MUST <push> extension), how registry
A could acquire state from registry B is ... undefined.

Earlier, Stuart suggested that the semantics of <check> may be conditional.
He suggested registrant eligibility, but could also have suggested registrar
access. In a non-flat namespace, with sub-registries, registrar access may
be namespace locality dependant. In the NeuLevel proposal to the US DoC, it
was proposed to operate the existing "legacy" locality-based namespace and a
new non-locality-based namespace with distinct policies, and in the locality
portion of the namespace, to possibly restrict registrar access to delegated
2LD and sub-delegated registries.

Thus, an object (name) could "exist" (from the registry's PoV), and the
semantics available to the registrant performing <check> not allow write
access, or possibly even read access.

Eric

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