To:
"Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>, ietf-provreg@cafax.se
From:
Klaus Malorny <Klaus.Malorny@knipp.de>
Date:
Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:32:33 +0200
Sender:
owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se
Subject:
3.4/Object Ownership, esp. Name Server Ownership
Hallo! One thing I nearly forgot is the question of object ownership. The section 3.4 is a bit unspecific to this topic. In the spec the term "sponsoring registrar" appears, which obviously describes the ownership of an object. On the first view one could think that the registrar which creates an object automatically owns/sponsors this object. But section "3.4.5 Object Transfer" tells us that name servers that belong (in a technical sense) to the zone of a domain are also transferred to the new owner. This implies that the ownership of name servers is related to the ownership of the corresponding domain. Now the problems start: - may have name servers a different owner than the domain they belong to? - if not, may other registrars have the ability to register a name server that belong to a domain sponsored by another registar? Is the ownership automatically transferred to that registrar just after registration? One big problem we regularly have with NSI's current registry system is that it disallows the registration of a name server belonging to a domain registered by another registrar. The requirement to be able to do that might be unreasonable in the first view. But many customers choose to use multiple registrars simultaneously for registering their domains, and it is rather difficult to explain to them that we can't register their domains with name servers they had specified and they own. It is a serious flaw in the design of the current system and should be avoided in any new protocol. Therefore, the requirement document should detail the question of ownership and restrictions regarding it. Scott, could you please describe how you envisage the behaviour? Eventually, we should give up the ownership relationship between name servers and domains, including the implicit transfer of name servers on domain transfers -- even if this voids some results of earlier discussions here. BTW. the problem does not appear at the contacts, as each registrar can create his own entry (or even multiple) for the same entity. regards, Klaus Malorny ___________________________________________________________________________ | | | knipp | Knipp Medien und Kommunikation GmbH ------- Technologiepark Martin-Schmeisser-Weg 9 Dipl. Inf. Klaus Malorny 44227 Dortmund Klaus.Malorny@knipp.de Tel. +49 231 9703 0