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To: Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com>, ietf-provreg@cafax.se
From: Richard Shockey <rshockey@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 21:35:50 -0400
In-Reply-To: <20010326083524.D30725@songbird.com>
Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se
Subject: Re: HTTP Transport? (was: Re: Security Design Team)

At 08:35 AM 3/26/2001 -0800, Kent Crispin wrote:
>On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 05:28:43PM +0100, Maynard Kang wrote:
> > William Tan wrote:
> > > I do not see any technical advantage over TCP that HTTP provides, in this
> > > context anyway.
> > >
> > > wil.
> >
> > Actually I don't think you can compare TCP and HTTP just like that. They
> > are transport methods at different layers (HTTP is TCP based in any case).
>
>But http is just being used as a transport protocol -- you will have to
>implement all the protocol elements on top of it, anyway.  So the
>comparison with plain old tcp is probably fairly accurate.

For the last time ...this list really needs understand that we will never 
be permitted to use HTTP OK ..get it ..the IESG has made its statements on 
this quite clear.  Out of bounds out of scope...see IPP for further 
information.

kent I know you are well aware of this but there are many on the list that 
are unaware of this  limitation...it was one of the key reasons BEEP was so 
esthetically embraced by the the IETF.


> > You'll have to compare HTTP with some "undefined or new TCP-based
> > application-layer transport protocol"
>
>We have to do a new application-layer protocol anyway.

IMHO BEEP can solve the problem and is already RFC ready.


>--
>Kent Crispin                               "Be good, and you will be
>kent@songbird.com                           lonesome." -- Mark Twain


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