To:
"Tony Hain" <alh-ietf@tndh.net>, <jinmei@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp>
Cc:
<ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com>, <dnsop@cafax.se>, <lynn@icann.org>, <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>, <orobles@nic.mx>, <pdeblanc@usvi.net>, <grant.forsyth@clear.co.nz>, <philip.sheppard@aim.be>, <mcade@att.com>, <Richard.Tindal@neulevel.com>, <ck@nrm.se>, <RCochetti@verisign.com>, <tony.ar.holmes@bt.com>, <harris@cabase.org.ar>, <greg_ruth@yahoo.com>, <yjpark@myepark.com>, <vany@sdnp.org.pa>, <mueller@syracuse.edu>, <erica.roberts@bigpond.com>, <Paul.Kane@reacto.com>, <kstubbs@dninet.net>, <aaus@mpaa.org>, <gcarey@carey.cl>, <CCHICOINE@thompsoncoburn.com>, <ga@dnso.org>
From:
"Jim Fleming" <jfleming@anet.com>
Date:
Tue, 4 Dec 2001 22:56:03 -0600
Sender:
owner-dnsop@cafax.se
Subject:
Re: (ngtrans) Re: reverse delegation under ip6.arpa.?
What are you afraid people will find out ? Has the IETF decided to use A6 or AAAA ? With 2002:[IPv4]:0000 used to keep people connected to the IPv4 Internet, how can the 3FFE experimental people claim to be connected ? Can all of the current IPv4 users access the 3FFE network ? This may help... http://www.dot-biz.com/IPv4/Tutorial/ The Netfilter Project: Packet Mangling for Linux 2.4 http://netfilter.samba.org Jim Fleming http://www.IPv8.info IPv16....One Better !! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Hain" <alh-ietf@tndh.net> To: "Jim Fleming" <jfleming@anet.com>; <jinmei@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp> Cc: <ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com>; <dnsop@cafax.se>; <lynn@icann.org>; <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>; <orobles@nic.mx>; <pdeblanc@usvi.net>; <grant.forsyth@clear.co.nz>; <philip.sheppard@aim.be>; <mcade@att.com>; <Richard.Tindal@neulevel.com>; <ck@nrm.se>; <RCochetti@verisign.com>; <tony.ar.holmes@bt.com>; <harris@cabase.org.ar>; <greg_ruth@yahoo.com>; <yjpark@myepark.com>; <vany@sdnp.org.pa>; <mueller@syracuse.edu>; <erica.roberts@bigpond.com>; <Paul.Kane@reacto.com>; <kstubbs@dninet.net>; <aaus@mpaa.org>; <gcarey@carey.cl>; <CCHICOINE@thompsoncoburn.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 10:13 PM Subject: RE: (ngtrans) Re: reverse delegation under ip6.arpa.? > Jim, > > You have been asked to stop posting nonsense like this to the list. > Since you clearly choose to impede rather than help progress the work of > the group we have no choice but to blocked your ability to post. This > initial block will last for 2 months. Hopefully you will change your > attitude by then. > > Tony > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com > > [mailto:owner-ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com]On Behalf Of Jim Fleming > > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:11 PM > > To: jinmei@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp > > Cc: ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com; dnsop@cafax.se; lynn@icann.org; > > Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr; orobles@nic.mx; pdeblanc@usvi.net; > > grant.forsyth@clear.co.nz; philip.sheppard@aim.be; mcade@att.com; > > Richard.Tindal@neulevel.com; ck@nrm.se; RCochetti@verisign.com; > > tony.ar.holmes@bt.com; harris@cabase.org.ar; greg_ruth@yahoo.com; > > yjpark@myepark.com; vany@sdnp.org.pa; mueller@syracuse.edu; > > erica.roberts@bigpond.com; Paul.Kane@reacto.com; kstubbs@dninet.net; > > aaus@mpaa.org; gcarey@carey.cl; CCHICOINE@thompsoncoburn.com > > Subject: Re: (ngtrans) Re: reverse delegation under ip6.arpa.? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <JINMEI Tatuya / $B?@L@C#:H (B > > <jinmei@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp>)> > > To: "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com> > > Cc: <ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com>; <dnsop@cafax.se>; > > <ngtrans@sunroof.eng.sun.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:31 PM > > Subject: Re: (ngtrans) Re: reverse delegation under ip6.arpa.? > > > > > > > >>>>> On Mon, 03 Dec 2001 05:31:39 -0800, > > > >>>>> Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> said: > > > > > > > agreed. but the pain is minimal. note that, initially, > > the content of > > > > ip6.arpa is directly that of ip6.int. in fact, one could > > have the same > > > > zone file pointed to by both names. the big pain in the > > transition is > > > > that of the registries, whois, etc. and they've been > > working on this > > > > for some months. > > > > > > As for the registry side transition, I have another question. I saw > > > delegations for 2001:0200::/24 to APNIC. What is the current status > > > about 3ffe::/16? Is there a plan to delegate ip6.arpa. sub domains > > > for that block? > > > > > > JINMEI, Tatuya > > > Communication Platform Lab. > > > Corporate R&D Center, Toshiba Corp. > > > jinmei@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp > > > > --------------- > > > > Others have stated that 3FFE users are on some sort of > > "experimental network". > > They are not connected to the real Internet, which has its > > foundation in IPv4. > > With the new AAAA records in the DNS, there is no room for the 3FFE, > > because of the 2002:[IPv4]:0000 values. Apparently, the 3FFE > > users use A6 > > DNS records, which are not recommended because of a variety > > of reasons. > > The IETF recently came to this conclusion. It is unclear why > > it took so long. > > Maybe stability and security are now more serious concerns ? > > > > Compare that to 2002:[IPv4]:0000 users, who are using IPv4 in > > the extended > > proxy mode, whereby the IPv4 header is augmented with extra > > information to > > route the packets to a larger address space. The 2002 users > > can of course use > > the IN-ADDR.[TLD] zones to record their address allocations. > > Many companies, > > including ICANN, are working on expanding the TLD variety. > > This will help > > to create the equivalent of thousands of Address Registries, > > where there are > > currently 3 dominant ones, and several private registries > > operated by the companies > > that got in early on the IPv4 address allocations. > > > > It all boils down to fairness. > > Which list do you think is more fair ? > > The "toy" IPv4 Internet Early Experimentation Allocations ? > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space > > or > > The Proof-of-Concept IPv8 Allocations ? > > http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt > > > > > > > > Jim Fleming > > http://www.dot-biz.com/IPv4/Tutorial/ > > http://www.IPv8.info > > IPv16....One Better !! > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List > > IPng Home Page: http://playground.sun.com/ipng > > FTP archive: ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng > > Direct all administrative requests to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >