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To: randy@psg.com, bmanning@isi.edu
Cc: perry@wasabisystems.com, seamus@bit-net.com, users@ipv6.org, dnsop@cafax.se, ngtrans@sunroof.eng.sun.com
From: Jim.Bound@nokia.com
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:15:13 -0600
Sender: owner-dnsop@cafax.se
Subject: RE: (ngtrans) Re: IPv6 dns


Its not that I have the opposite opinion but any product will reach
endoflife or need to be
upgraded to support new and better functions and backwards compatibility
will have to 
be broken.  It should not be done adhoc or without good reason but in this
case I think
its fair to break it.  Upgrade or don't work I agree with Bill in this case.
I also think those who have not upgraded are remiss in their social
responsiblity to advance with
the network.

/jim

-----Original Message-----
From: ext Randy Bush [mailto:randy@psg.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 7:48 AM
To: Bill Manning
Cc: perry@wasabisystems.com; seamus@bit-net.com; users@ipv6.org;
dnsop@cafax.se; ngtrans@sunroof.eng.sun.com
Subject: (ngtrans) Re: IPv6 dns


> % an example of a worry is cache poisoning of an antique v4 bind.
> % ----
> % and there are thousands of vulnerable v4 binds still out there.
> 
> 	One might argue that we have only applied the carrot.
> 	We still have broken/vulnerable code, some pushing
> 	15 years w/o an upgrade. Perhaps its time to apply
> 	a stick and let folks know that things will stop working
> 	or won't be the same unless they upgrade. 

there are people who don't think it's prudent engineering to break the net
to get people to do something.  silly things about technical and social
responsibility now that the net has grown a bit bigger than boys and their
toys.

of course there are folk with the opposite opinion.

randy

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