Re: Commercial Advantages of Hosting Name Servers

["David R. Conrad" <david.conrad@nominum.com>]

Randy,

I guess I've just become too cynical about what marketing folks will 
do.  Perhaps you're right.  Perhaps no ISP's marketing folks would say 
"since we run one of the nameservers for <blah>, it is obvious that 
responses to requests to <blah> would be better than for our 
competitors."  or "since we run one of the nameservers for <blah>, our 
network is obviously better than our competitor who doesn't."  (regardless 
of how true such statements might be).

Rgds,
-drc

At 09:57 AM 12/11/2000 -0800, Randy Bush wrote:
>bill said they would, but did not substantiate this with the merest example.
>hard to provide a counterexample to a non-existent example.
>
>but, to make trouble, as a competitor, i would have no problem with, e.g.,
>uunet having a root server near its edge with its peers.
>
>randy, who likes having money near mouths
>
>
> > Are you suggesting that marketing folk would not take advantage of such a
> > situation?
> >
> > Rgds,
> > -drc
> >
> > At 04:23 PM 12/10/2000 -0800, Randy Bush wrote:
> > > > % If a name server is hosted with an ISP, does that give the ISP a
> > > commercial
> > > > % advantage in anyway, for example, in marketing, or in negotiating 
> peering
> > > > % agreements, or similar?
> > > >
> > > >       Yes, hosting a server does provide a commercial advantage. There
> > > >       is no way to escape it.
> > > >
> > > >       This concern was what drove the placement of the four additional
> > > >       root servers that were created in 1995.  Many ISPs expressed
> > > >       interest in hosting. The principle reason was that it provided
> > > >       a competative advantage, hence the model that was chosen was to
> > > >       have one entity, usually a membership or constituency based
> > > >       entity operate the node, with physical placement being directed
> > > >       by short RTTs within a region and good connectivity to the
> > > >       other servers for the domain.
> > >
> > >i can't find the part of your message which describes the commercial
> > >advantage.
> > >
> > >randy
> >