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To: "David R. Conrad" <david.conrad@nominum.com>
Cc: Bill Manning <bmanning@zed.isi.edu>, peter@gradwell.com (Peter Gradwell), dnsop@cafax.se
From: Randy Bush <rbush@bainbridge.verio.net>
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:57:41 -0800
Sender: owner-dnsop@cafax.se
Subject: Re: Commercial Advantages of Hosting Name Servers

bill said they would, but did not substantiate this with the merest example.
hard to provide a counterexample to a non-existent example.

but, to make trouble, as a competitor, i would have no problem with, e.g.,
uunet having a root server near its edge with its peers.

randy, who likes having money near mouths


> Are you suggesting that marketing folk would not take advantage of such a 
> situation?
> 
> Rgds,
> -drc
> 
> At 04:23 PM 12/10/2000 -0800, Randy Bush wrote:
> > > % If a name server is hosted with an ISP, does that give the ISP a 
> > commercial
> > > % advantage in anyway, for example, in marketing, or in negotiating peering
> > > % agreements, or similar?
> > >
> > >       Yes, hosting a server does provide a commercial advantage. There
> > >       is no way to escape it.
> > >
> > >       This concern was what drove the placement of the four additional
> > >       root servers that were created in 1995.  Many ISPs expressed
> > >       interest in hosting. The principle reason was that it provided
> > >       a competative advantage, hence the model that was chosen was to
> > >       have one entity, usually a membership or constituency based
> > >       entity operate the node, with physical placement being directed
> > >       by short RTTs within a region and good connectivity to the
> > >       other servers for the domain.
> >
> >i can't find the part of your message which describes the commercial
> >advantage.
> >
> >randy
> 

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