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To: Alexander Mayrhofer <axelm@nic.at>, <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>
From: James Gould <jgould@verisign.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:09:21 -0400
In-Reply-To: <433BF9DC.2080505@nic.at>
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Thread-Topic: [ietf-provreg] RFC updates - roid length restriction
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Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] RFC updates - roid length restriction

Alex,

Are you referring to the length of the contact client id or the length of
the roid?  The clIDType is defined as:

  <simpleType name="clIDType">

        <restriction base="token">

            <minLength value="3"/>

            <maxLength value="16"/>

        </restriction>

    </simpleType>



The roidType is defined as:

  <simpleType name="roidType">

        <restriction base="token">

        <pattern value="(\w|_){1,80}-\w{1,8}"/>

        </restriction>

   </simpleType>



The EPP roidType supports your format, but the client id's would have to be
between 3 and 16 characters.  We didn't have a migration issue to deal with.
My recommendation is to use the prefix values (AMFR12011011) or something
else as the client id's and use the full object id (AMFR12011011-NICAT) as
the roid.  


-- 

JG 

James F. Gould
VeriSign Naming and Directory Services
jgould@verisign.com

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> From: Alexander Mayrhofer <axelm@nic.at>
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:27:40 +0200
> To: <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>
> Subject: [ietf-provreg] RFC updates - roid length restriction
> 
> 
> We are currently evaluating EPP to replace our email based provisioning
> system in our ccTLD registry (.at)
> 
> One of the (surprisingly few remaining) issues we encountered is that
> handles for our contact objects extend beyond the 16-character limit of EPP
> repository object id's (we have handles like "AMFR12011011-NICAT". We don't
> want to change or even drop the suffix on our object identifiers (because
> all of our registrars would have to do the same in their internal databases)
> so our only option now seems to go for either an extension of some kind, or
> to completely replace contact & domain mapping with our local mappings.
> 
> The different roid length would then be the only essential difference
> between stock and local mappings, so we'd like to avoid that.
> 
> Questions:
> 
> - Did any other registry operators already encounter this, or are we the
> only ones who use "oversized" handles (i can't believe that)?
> - Should therefore the length restriction be extended (to eg. 32 characters)
> in the "refurbished" drafts to safely avoid such problems?
> 
> any comments appreciated.
> 
> Alex Mayrhofer
> nic.at
> 


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