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To: ietf-provreg@cafax.se
From: Hong Liu <lhongsms@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:22:40 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212051204140.17511-100000@flash.ar.com>
Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se
Subject: lastVerified: optional vs. extension

Rick,

I think the same standards apply to both camps. I
already stated my position and my reasoning in a
previous posting [1]. I will further elaborate if need
be. The burden of proof lies on both sides. I want to
see the reasoning from you why this element _must_ be
in the base EPP instead of as an extension. And I want
to hear from you why the effectiveness of this element
can be assessed without an established policy
framework.

Just to be clear: I am not against the utility of this
element. This is a nice feature to have IF armed with
the right policy framework. However, as others have
pointed out, this is a nice-to-have, but _not_ a
must-have, feature [2]. Most importantly, AFAIK, there
is no established policy framework that ensures the
accuracy of the data. Without it, it will be
garbage-in and garbage-out. Just adding a new element
does not really solve the problem you try to solve.
Both points indicate that this element needs further
study before it is incorporated in EPP, and thus
should be treated as an extension rather than as a
element in the base protocol.

Let's have a constructive discussion on the list. Just
getting frustrated by different opinions and
countering with accusations does not help. Please,
despite of our differences, let's have a good dialogue
on this issue. I stand to be corrected and convinced.

Regards,

--Hong

[1]
http://www.cafax.se/ietf-provreg/maillist/2002-11/msg00064.html

[2]
http://www.cafax.se/ietf-provreg/maillist/2002-11/msg00052.html

--- Rick Wesson <wessorh@ar.com> wrote:
> 
> Hong Liu,
> 
> don't hold back --  post your thoughts on how to
> handle this issue. There
> was allot of support in the room and in the halls so
> please be specific in
> your alternate proposal.
> 
> hand-waving and promises of your reasoning at a
> later date don't count.
> 
> -rick
> 
> On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Hong Liu wrote:
> 
> > two people on the list are for extension, _and_
> gave good reasons for
> > why, -:) [1]. I am for it to be an extension. I
> will reiterate my
> > reasoning once the co-chairs poll the list.
> 
> 
> 


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