RE: Definition of "External" Host

["Liu, Hong" <Hong.Liu@neustar.biz>]

Scott,

The text I would like to propose to change is in
draft-ietf-provreg-epp-domain-05.txt, section 1.1, second paragraph, last
sentence: 
change 
"Such hosts are described as "external" hosts in this specification since
the management authority for these hosts is external to the repository in
which the host is being used for delegation purposes."
to
"Such hosts are described as "external" hosts in this specification since
the name of such host does not belong to the name space of the repository in
which the host is being used for delegation purposes."

I would also like to add some text in section 1.1 for the case where a host
object is used as a nameserver for a domain, but it is neither an external
host nor a subordiate host of the domain. That is, a host object that is
internal to the repository but external to the domain where it is being used
for delegation purpose. For example, ns1.abc.tld is a subordinate host of
domain abc.tld, and it is being used as a nameserver for domain def.tld. EPP
seems to allow this scenario, but it is not explicitly covered in section
1.1. The suggested text can be the following:

"Whether a host is external or internal is with respect to the repository in
which the host is being used for delegation purposes. Whether an internal
host is subordinate or non-subordinate is with respect to a domain within
the respository. For example, host ns1.abc.tld is a subordinate host of
domain abc.tld, but is a non-subordinate host of domain def.tld. ns1.abc.tld
can be used as a nameserver for def.tld. In this case, ns1.abc.tld MUST be
treated as an internal host, subject to the rules governing the operations
on subordinate hosts within the same repository."

I will leave it to you as how to incorporate the above paragraph in section
1.1. 

What do you think?

--Hong

-----Original Message-----
From: Hollenbeck, Scott [mailto:shollenbeck@verisign.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:55 PM
To: 'Liu, Hong'; 'ietf-provreg@cafax.se'
Subject: RE: Definition of "External" Host

[snip...]

So, I think we're talking about the same thing.  Could you get to the point
of whatever it is you have an issue with?  If you don't like the way these
special-case hosts are described in the current document, please suggest
alternative text to describe the concept.

By the way, none of this was introduced in EPP-07.  It's been this way for
several revisions, including the one that passed WG last call.

-Scott-