RE: "External" hosts in EPP

[asbjorn.rrp@theglobalname.org]

Brian,

I don't think we would want to remove the host object completely - just for out-of-zone hosts.

Host-objects _are_ useful, and for in-zone hosts, there are no real issues with them, as ownership is clear. For out-of-zone hosts, there might be more problems having them as objects than it is for the domains to just refer to "host names" directly...


Asbjorn


On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 01:43:36 -0800 "Brian Park" <brian@new.net> wrote:
>Greetings, and thank you all for your work on the EPP protocol.
>
>I like Rick's idea very much. So I have a question:
>
>Can the <host> object be eliminated completely?
>
>I feel that this can solve a number of implementation difficulties.
>
>Then, how does one specify the IP address of a name server? As far as I
>understand, the only time a host requires a glue record is when it acts as a
>name server to its superordinate domain. In that case, its IP address(es)
>could be specified by extending the <domain:ns> element in the
><domain:create> element. If the host is "external", then its IP address does
>not need to (and probably should not) be specified.
>
>I do understand that the host object provides a useful layer of indirection
>between a domain and its name servers. The loss of this functionality may be
>outweighed by the elimination of a number of problems (related to host
>deletion, domain deletion, locking of domains due to cross-references, host
>hijacking, glue records, host ownership, etc.)
>
>The issue of dangling references to non-existent name servers came up in a
>previous email thread (entitled "host transfers", 2001-8-7 to 2001-8-29). It
>seems to me that in the world of multiple independent Registries, such
>references will not be uncommon, and unfortunately unpreventable in the
>absence of a Registry-to-Registry protocol.
>
>I can continue to give more detailed arguments on the pros and cons of this
>idea, but if the fundamental suggestion is without merit, then I will stop
>here.
>
>Brian Park
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se [mailto:owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se]On
>Behalf Of Rick H Wesson
>Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:17 AM
>To: asbjorn.rrp@theglobalname.org
>Cc: ietf-provreg@cafax.se
>Subject: Re: "External" hosts in EPP
>
>
>
>asbjorn,
>
>another potential solution is to only requre host objects for hosts that
>require glue. in other words hosts outside the zone don't need a host
>object created. hosts inside the managed zone require a host object to be
>created and associated with the deligation.
>
>-rick
>
>
>


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