To:
george@register.com (George Belotsky)
Cc:
bmanning@isi.edu (Bill Manning), michaelm@netsol.com, shollenbeck@verisign.com (Hollenbeck Scott), ietf-provreg@cafax.se
From:
Bill Manning <bmanning@isi.edu>
Date:
Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:02:04 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To:
<20010312134326.A14666@register.com> from "George Belotsky" at Mar 12, 2001 01:43:26 PM
Sender:
owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se
Subject:
Re: Unique handle generation
A globally unique space is required within a given object type or confusion reigns. Constructing composites out of atomics can assist in removing abiguity. Without additional information, I can't discriminate George from George from George. Adding a Surname helps. (different object type) Adding a registry helps (different object type). Still too many GEORGEB-ARIN handles... And while ARIN may fabricate its own ideas of which GEORGEB is which, unless there is some atomic way of removing the ambiguity of GEORGE, as that object type pertains to the Internet, then we can only refer to GEORGE in its relationship to another object type. We can't talk about GEORGE as a handle with independent meaning. % % A globally unique handle does not necessarily require % coordination between organizations to ensure uniqueness. % % George. % % % On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 10:04:20AM -0800, Bill Manning wrote: % > %>% I'm not sure I understand the point you're trying to make in the context of % > %>% admin repository changes over time. % > %>% % > %>% What happens to your example handle if the admin function is one day moved % > %>% from ARIN to some other administrative entity (call it !ARIN for the sake of % > %>% argument), but the person and prefix remain constant? Does the handle % > %>% remain WM110-ARIN, or must it change to WM110-!ARIN? % > %> % > %> The legecy composite WM110-ARIN remains % > %> If -I- chose to do business w/ !ARIN, then !ARIN may % > %> create the composite WM110-!ARIN. If !ARIN wishes % > %> to create the composite anyway, they -MUST- use my % > %> handle, WM110, not create something else.. like BM14 % > %> or WM73. % > % % > % So your personal handle is part of a globally unique space that all % > % registries have to coordinate to ensure uniqueness, right? % > % % > % -MM % > % > Unfortunately, yes. % > Just like the registry handles have be be globally unique. % > (It would be confusing to have two registries with the same % > handle... :) % > One must have globally unique space within each object type. % > % > % > -- % > --bill % % -- % ----------------------------- % George Belotsky % Senior Software Architect % Register.com, inc. % george@register.com % 212-798-9127 (phone) % 212-798-9876 (fax) % -- --bill