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To: Edward Lewis <lewis@tislabs.com>
Cc: ietf-provreg@cafax.se
From: Dave Crocker <dcrocker@brandenburg.com>
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 09:13:56 -0800
In-Reply-To: <v0313030db6a47cb8a3dd@[207.172.150.204]>
Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se
Subject: Re: Fw: WG Review: Provisioning Registry Protocol (provreg)

At 11:23 AM 2/5/2001 -0500, Edward Lewis wrote:
>I've spent quite a few hours on email this weekend just on this topic.  I
>fail to see how this discussion is helping us get to the protocol.

The failure to see is the concern.  The change to the charter was 
substantive.

The material removed was put into the draft charter based on considerable 
IETF experience, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT HELPS THE WORKING GROUP PRODUCE A 
PROTOCOL and IN A TIMELY FASHION.

The matter of ensuring working group focus is not a small point.  It is at 
least as important as ensuring proper consensus processes.  In my opinion 
it is, in fact, more difficult!

Had you gotten feedback from Patrik to make the change, that would be 
another matter.

Instead you got private statements of concern, did not consult the mailing 
list, and reacted to other people's fears, making a change in spite of this 
being contrary to a reasonable consensus on this list.

I fully appreciate and respect the concerns you felt about the private 
comments and about expediting the IESG consideration.  I even encourage you 
to keep them.  The question is what was done with the concerns.

Given the timing you were faced with, trying to expedite matters is 
laudable.  However the changes were really contrary to the history of the 
list discussion.

d/


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