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To: Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com>
CC: teemu.savolainen@nokia.com, iljitsch@muada.com, dnsop@cafax.se
From: Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:59:35 +0900
In-Reply-To: <20768.1068684269@gromit.rfc1035.com>
Sender: owner-dnsop@cafax.se
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Subject: Re: DNS discovery

Jim Reid wrote:

>>>>>>"teemu" ==   <teemu.savolainen@nokia.com> writes:
> 
> 
>     teemu> I'd like to point out that any additional (round trip)
>     teemu> delay in configuration phase, especially in wireless
>     teemu> (cellular) environments, is _not_ user friendly. Please
>     teemu> consider those 200.000.000+ million cellular users opening
>     teemu> a network link for browsing etc. purposes who have to wait
>     teemu> every time for yet another round trip .....
> 
> While I agree that minimising delays and RTTs is always desirable,
> your argument is a bit of a non-sequitur. There's usually a delay of
> 10-15 seconds after a mobile phone is powered on or roams from its
> home provider before it has finished the authentication dance and
> joined some mobile operator's network.

Just FYI, we developped a protocol over 802.11 WLAN with defact
standard psuedo adhoc mode to perform, with three-way handshake,
everything, including beaconing, mutual authentication between an
access point and a mobile node, sharing session key and address
assignment, which is a lot better than 802.1x requiring several
exchanges of packets.

We observed it work with 802.11 WLAN on mobile hosts moving at
260Km/h, for which 10-15 seconds are prohibitive.

						Masataka Ohta


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