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To: bert hubert <ahu@ds9a.nl>
CC: dnsop@cafax.se
From: Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 17:23:14 +0900
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Subject: Re: preventing cache contamination

bert hubert;

>>>Ah - so you just ask a question multiple times with different id and source
>>>port, making it exponentially harder to spoof an answer.
>>
>>No, though it is a protection on end systems. To prevent cache
>>contamination, it is enough that caching server caches information
>>only if there are more than one query.

> Ah - that would still allow the first answer to be spoofed.

I know and it is easy to stop it. But see the subject.

> How do you deal
> with bonafide changes within the TTL? These also generate different answers
> than before.

That's why I wrote "compatible answer" in the first mail of the
thread.

>>>Say a question originally arrived for www.hpcl.titech.ac.jp, and
>>>pdns_recursor already had "titech.ac.jp NS your-nameserver", pdns_recursor
>>>only accepts answers within or above titech.ac.jp. Foo.bar is immediately
>>>rejected, as it does not end on titech.ac.jp.
>>
>>Are you saying nameservers "[a-m].gtld-servers.net." for "com." are
>>rejected?
> 
> 
> No, I look at the left hand side, [a-m].gtld-servers.net are accepted from
> the "." nameserver because they are records for "COM." which is above ".".

"COM." is above "."? I'm totally confused. Are there any document
on the net?

							Masataka Ohta


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