To:
Rob Austein <sra+dnsop@hactrn.net>
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"Eric A. Hall" <ehall@ehsco.com>
Date:
Fri, 08 Aug 2003 17:01:19 -0500
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Subject:
Re: scope
on 8/8/2003 2:36 PM Rob Austein wrote: > Ohta-san is correct that every single one of the approaches we've > discussed has some kind of scoping constraint which, ultimately, is This is what I was trying to point out as well. > - RA/ND-based: if RA/ND isn't configured, discovery doesn't happen. > > - Multicast-query based (DHCP, DHCP-lite, LLMNR-like, whatever): if > router multicast (or DHCP relay) isn't configured, may work anyway > on the local link, but otherwise discovery doesn't happen. > > - Well-known address based: discovery propagates upstream following > the default route until it finds something or hits the edge of the > default free routing zone. Discovery does not work if neither > well-known address nor default route is configured. That's pretty mcuh right, except for a clarification to the well-known address problem, which is that in the default (unmanaged) scenario, locally-generated queries will follow the default routes, and will get passed to whoever actually owns the address space in question. There are actually two impositions here: First is that the use of an address-based mechanism needs to have non-delegated, non-used address space explicitly reserved for it by ICANN or whoever. Organizations don't necessarily have to use that address space, but something needs to be reserved for use in the default model, and it must not be part of RFC1918 space or any actual space. Second is that the use of locally-preferred addresses actually cranks up the administrative costs greatly, since admins not only have to configure the routing service to accomodate the local addresses, but also needs to configure the nodes to use that address space. None of the other requirements have any need for the admins to manage the leaf-nodes whatsoever, and this is not a trivial artifact. -- Eric A. Hall http://www.ehsco.com/ Internet Core Protocols http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/ #---------------------------------------------------------------------- # To unsubscribe, send a message to <dnsop-request@cafax.se>.