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To: bmanning@ISI.EDU, pekkas@netcore.fi
Cc: dnsop@cafax.se
From: matthew.ford@bt.com
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:28:30 +0100
content-class: urn:content-classes:message
Sender: owner-dnsop@cafax.se
Subject: RE: IPv6 DNS Autoconfiguration

we are all free to fill our /etc/resolv.conf with garbage if we want.

mat.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Manning [mailto:bmanning@ISI.EDU]
> Sent: 14 July 2003 21:09
> To: Pekka Savola
> Cc: dnsop@cafax.se
> Subject: Re: IPv6 DNS Autoconfiguration
> 
> 
>  mind, I am very concerned w/ the goofy IPR/Note Well restrictions,
>  so posting/participating is -very- infrequent.  but to pose a query
>  to the assembled multitude:
> 
>  BIND, a common DNS implementation has the ability to apply access
>  controls as a local policy matter as to who can and can not use
>  a "recursive resolving nameserver" or what ever it was that Rob said 
>  it was.  If one uses the RA/ND techniques, how does one expect to
>  extract the local DNS policy information before handing out server
>  info via the RA/ND method?
> 
>  this weakness was not touched on during Bob Hindons presentation
>  and I did not stay for the rest of the sessions festivities
> 
> 
> 
> 
> % On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Masataka Ohta wrote:
> % > > Beforehand, I'd like to summarize my talk for today's
> % > > discussion about DNS Discovery and Autoconfiguration.
> % > 
> % > Autoconfiguration, as expected by IPv6 folds, is just impossible
> % > that it is a pity that DNSOP WG is contaminated.
> % > 
> % > Autoconfiguration is easy on a single link isolated from the
> % > Internet. But, that's all.
> % 
> % FWIW, my opinion on the subject;
> % 
> % DHCPv6-lite has been proposed as a means how to fix this problem.
> % 
> % My issue with DHCPv6-lite is that DHCPv6 spec is some 89 
> pages, and most 
> % options are some 5 (or more) pages more, each.
> % 
> % Even though DHCPv6-lite is only a subset of that, it still requires 
> % reading, understanding etc. a lot of it.  It's much more 
> difficult to get 
> % the "big picture" of DHCPv6-lite this way.
> % 
> % Now, if we had specified DHCPv6 without address assignment (like I
> % suggested, but that's beside the point), and put all of the 
> stateful stuff
> % ("cruft") in a separate "extension" RFC, we'd be talking 
> about an entirely
> % different issue.
> % 
> % I was a very simple to implement, robust mechanism that's easy to 
> % understand.  Reading 20 selected pieces of a large document 
> fills that 
> % requirement, IMHO.
> % 
> % I want a spec which is simple and clear, and less than 
> 15-20 pages long.
> % 
> % -- 
> % Pekka Savola                 "You each name yourselves king, yet the
> % Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
> % Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings
> % 
> % 
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> -- 
> --bill
> 
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