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To: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
cc: Markus Stumpf <maex-lists-dns-ietf-dnsop@Space.Net>, <dnsop@cafax.se>
From: Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 16:06:44 -0500 (EST)
In-Reply-To: <a05210624bab294ce4fd9@[10.0.1.2]>
Sender: owner-dnsop@cafax.se
Subject: Re: RR DNS and spam

Ah, you mean RFC 2476. 2476 is a _proposed_ standard. Since it hasn't
moved since 1998, I think it is a _dead_ proposed standard.  It is just
another in a list of gratuitous changes that are shown by experience to be
a waste of time and effort, as their proponents tilt at windmills trying
to invent a protocol which can't be subjected to abuse and will prevent
human behavior.

So, I guess a statement has been demonstrated to be false, but it wasn't
mine.

		--Dean

On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Brad Knowles wrote:

> At 1:33 AM +0200 2003/04/04, Brad Knowles wrote:
>
> >  	This is a demonstrably false statement.  The updated RFCs for
> >  Internet e-mail explicitly state that SMTP is a server-to-server
> >  protocol.  If you want client-to-server, this would be the Mail
> >  Server Protocol (MSP).  Right now, MSP looks a hell of a lot like
> >  SMTP, but they will diverge in the future.
>
> 	Sorry, I meant Message Submission Protocol.  My bad.
>
> --
> Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
>      -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
>
> GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+
> !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++)
> tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++)
>

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