Re: (ngtrans) Joint DNSEXT & NGTRANS summary

[Bill Manning <bmanning@ISI.EDU>]

% It cannot happen - net wide infrastructure upgrades are close to impossible
% (for them to be even worth considering, the rationale has to be more
% than compelling, there must be no other choice - for A6, or mobile IP,
% or IDN, or anything else like that, there's always going to be some other
% way than the right way).

	Then the Internet is doomed.  Either evolution or revolution.
	Either the right way or an incremental hack, a goiter, that
	we can never get rid of.

	If there can never be any significant upgrade, then something
	else will come along and replace it.  Some interesting work
	is starting to appear in the HIP/MANET space that could
	give some level of transport independence (rehoming TCP
	sessions on the fly) which could make existing mobilip
	OBE. The right path for IDN was to change the on-wire/stored
	encoding, forcing application evolution. Some fools^H^H^Hlks
	are looking at how to make those changes to the DNS.

% We have a way to do it now, or soon.   There's no way that it can ever
% be made to happen once we get wide deployment.  Expecting it is just fantasy.
% 
% eg: now the DNS has SRV records, they do so everything that MX can do,
% and more.   In a way they're the analog of A6 and AAAA (MX is a subset of
% SRV).   There would be benefits to converting SMTP to use SRV instead of
% MX.   Can you imagine anyone seriously suggesting that that happen however?
% Can you really imagine that there'd ever be a day when we could deprecate
% the MX record?

	Yes I can see it.  We've done it before. VJC is yet another
	example. Heck, we might even replace SMTP.

% Yes, sure.   Though it is also possible that AAAA synthesis would never
% be a transition technique, but rather a permanent part of the way things
% work (even if we decided that we wanted to move away from it, and there
% probably wouldn't be much reason, there'd be no way to ever upgrade all
% the clients, so back end resolvers would always need to provide it, so
% new clients may as well just use the service that they know will be there...)

	Yet another hack, like mobilip & IDN. 

% kre

	As stated elsewhere, you seem to be taking the cynical
	path while I retain some semblence of pollyanna. You seem
	unwilling to do the right thing in favor of what looks
	like the expediant thing.  Or am I reading too much into
	your statements?

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--bill