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From: "Loomis, Rip" <GILBERT.R.LOOMIS@saic.com>
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 12:41:42 -0400
Sender: owner-dnssec@cafax.se
Subject: RE: dnssec: resolver - application communication

Matt Larson writes:

> It sounds like you're arguing for a richer signaling mechanism between
> security-aware iterative-mode resolver and recursive-mode resolver.  I
> have been in the "AD bit, SERVFAIL sucks" camp for some time and a
> voice crying for something else.  I think some additional RCODEs (or
> some other mechanism) to communicate DNSSEC validation status are
> necessary and inevitable.

Hi Matt.

I think that as a minimum the "NOTVAL" RCODE is needed.  I'd actually
like to see a "RAWDATAOK" (or something) RCODE that could be used in
the request--to say "I not only want DNSSEC-relevant data, but I want
the raw data even if some of it fails your local validation, since I may
have my own secure entry points/configured keys".

Yes, there are potential problems, but I think that such a capability
would be useful both in the transition stages of getting DNSSEC
fielded (zones signed) and then in the subsequent notional transition
to secure stub resolvers.  The alternative is requiring iterative
queries to all the upstream authoritative servers (which may be
prevented by router ACLs/topology on some networks) or else falling
back to queries without DNSSEC.

Comments?  Did I miss something in my thinking?

> One of these days I'll just break down and write an I-D.

I think the day where one is needed has arrived.

  --Rip

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