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To: Derek Atkins <warlord@MIT.EDU>
cc: Paul Hoffman / IMC <phoffman@imc.org>, keydist@cafax.se
From: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca>
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 15:32:37 -0500
In-reply-to: Your message of "08 Jan 2002 13:59:57 EST." <sjmsn9gis7m.fsf@cutter-john.mit.edu>
Sender: owner-keydist@cafax.se
Subject: Re: From whence we came...

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>>>>> "Derek" == Derek Atkins <warlord@MIT.EDU> writes:
    Derek> Paul Hoffman / IMC <phoffman@imc.org> writes:

    >> At 9:43 PM -0500 1/7/02, Derek Atkins wrote:
    >> >I think we're already assuming EDNS0 and DNSSEC, which already requires
    >> >support for >512 bytes (and provides a way of negotiating support).
    >> >So, no, size is not (really) an issue.
    >> 
    >> OK, I admit that I am a bit naive about DNS politics. I thought that 
    >> the objection to >512 octets was regardless of EDNS0. That is, even 
    >> though the end systems are supposed to support longer packets, the 
    >> UDP fragmentation happens in the middle of the net, and the end 
    >> systems fall back to TCP. The EDNS0 document is far from clear (even 
    >> after many readings, which I have done wearing my IDN hat).
    >> 
    >> So, are 2K-4K DNS responses OK now as long as they come in EDNS0?

    Derek> 2K-4K?  Where do you get that size?  When I query, for example,
    Derek> "tislabs.com. IN ANY" I get a response of 2223 bytes (according to
    Derek> dig).  This response includes the SOA, 3 NS records, 2 MX records, 4
    Derek> KEY records, 1 NXT record, and 8 SIG records.  So, where is your
    Derek> 4K coming from?

  There are no application keys in that response :-)

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