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To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>, Olafur Gudmundsson <ogud@ogud.com>, Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com>
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From: James Gould <jgould@verisign.com>
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:18:26 -0500
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Thread-Topic: [ietf-provreg] Re: RFC4310bis document writeup
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Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] Re: RFC4310bis document writeup

I concur with Scott.  The main goal of referencing RFC 3757 was for the
description of the SEP bit, where in RFC 4034 it references RFC 3757 for the
same reason.  

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> From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>
> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:30:44 -0500
> To: Olafur Gudmundsson <ogud@ogud.com>, Alexey Melnikov
> <alexey.melnikov@isode.com>
> Cc: <iesg@ietf.org>, EPP Provreg <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>
> Subject: RE: [ietf-provreg] Re: RFC4310bis document writeup
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se
>> [mailto:owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se] On Behalf Of Olafur Gudmundsson
>> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 8:34 AM
>> To: Alexey Melnikov
>> Cc: iesg@ietf.org; EPP Provreg
>> Subject: [ietf-provreg] Re: RFC4310bis document writeup
>> 
>> On 04/03/2010 6:54 AM, Alexey Melnikov wrote:
>>> Hi Olafur,
>>> 
>>> Olafur Gudmundsson wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> 
>>>> (1.g) Has the Document Shepherd personally verified that
>> the document 
>>>> satisfies all ID nits? (See the Internet-Drafts Checklist and
>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/). Boilerplate checks are not
>>>> enough; this check needs to be thorough. Has the document met all
>>>> formal review criteria it needs to, such as the MIB Doctor, media
>>>> type and URI type reviews?
>>>> 
>>>> There are few nits due to the ever changing boilerplates and tools
>>>> not being available when BP changes :-(.
>>>> 
>>>> I found one minor error in section 4.1. cites RFC3757 but
>> should use 
>>>> the document that obsoleted it, RFC4034.
>>> 
>>> If I remember correctly I've asked authors about this
>> before starting 
>>> IETF LC and they said it was intentional.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> IMHO I do not understand why they want to treat RFC3757
>> differently from
>> RFC3658 as both are obsoleted by RFC403[345].
>> 
>> If the RFC3757 reference stands then I need to change my
>> write-up to say there is a possible downref as Obsolete RFC
>> is used and editors will have to provide downref justification.
>> If there is particular text in RFC3757 that the editors want
>> to cite, an explicit informative reference can be added but
>> the main citation is changed to RFC403[45].
> 
> Changing the reference would be fine, bit I'm not sure which of the new
> documents is an appropriate replacement.  None of them seem to describe
> the function of the SEP bit in the same way that 3757 does.
> 
> Scott
> 
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