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To: Jaap Akkerhuis <jaap@sidn.nl>
cc: ietf-provreg@cafax.se, brunner@nic-naa.net
From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine <brunner@nic-naa.net>
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:52:28 -0500
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 03 Mar 2003 19:30:08 +0100." <200303031830.h23IU8ue035383@bartok.sidn.nl>
Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se
Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] FYI: EPP implementation by the Polish registry


> I don't recall the question, at least I don't recognize it. The
> basic answer is no.  There is no requirement for EU residency for
> registars nor registrants. All contracts are under dutch law. To
> force this, there should be a dutch adress to which papers can be
> presented.  But that has nothing to do with privacy apart from the
> fact that the dutch privacy law should be followed by .nl.

See "Deelnemers categorie I", below.

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Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] where are we with privacy 
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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:48:51 -0500
From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine <brunner@nic-naa.net>

> I would also like others to comment on Jaap's message and assessment that:

OK, part 2.

> At 13:43 +0100 1/10/03, Jaap Akkerhuis wrote:
> ...
> >So yes, the non-disclose attribute will work for us without any
> >problem. It is possible that we might do extensions to aid with the
> ...
> >
> >	jaap

\begin{quote}
Deelnemers
...
Deelnemer worden
...
Deelnemers categorie I
	Voor het deelnemerschap categorie I komen in aanmerking
	bedrijven in instellingen die zijn gevestigd op het grondgebied
	van de Euorpese Unie.

	[Category I participation Category I participation is open
	to businesses and institutions based within the European Union.] 

	...

	Het deelnemerschap geeft recht tot:

		o het verzorgen van de registratie van domeinnamen ten
		  behoeve van klanten;

	[Category I participants have the following rights:

		o To apply to register domain names on behalf of
		  clients;]
\end{quote}

The "us" (parties having the capacity to register domain names on behalf
of clients) for which "the non-disclose attribute will work" appears to
be a scoped set of (eventual) EPP participants. The charter for this WG
is not to create a registry-specific, or regime-specific, or jurisdiction-
specific, or object-specific protocol.

How can a registrar signal in-band to a registry that it accepts the general
Data Protection framework, and any specific terms and conditions?

More generally, how can any two (or more) participants in the onward-transport
of customer data signal in-band their data collection practices, and automate
the management of onward-transport?

Eric

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