To:
Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>, Rick Wesson <wessorh@ar.com>
Cc:
Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, Edward Lewis <edlewis@arin.net>, "'ietf-provreg@cafax.se'" <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>, iesg@ietf.org
From:
Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us>
Date:
Wed, 08 Jan 2003 14:13:20 -0500
Sender:
owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se
Subject:
Re: privacy
One way to solve the problem resign into the list At 05:50 PM 1/8/2003 +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: >On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 08:29:29AM -0800, > Rick Wesson <wessorh@ar.com> wrote > a message of 32 lines which said: > > > IMHO, privacy needs to be addressed in a superset of the protocols (epp, > > crisp, whois) and a specific group tasked with that job; > >This is very reasonable (sorry for the fine members of the Provreg >group but last-minute attempts to solve a problem as large as the >privacy policies in a few lines of patch to the I-D are quite >laughable). Excellent point, I could not agree more ... IMHO all of this goes to the much larger issue of privacy policy across all IETF protocols and that is something that is clearly outside the scope of PROVREG. IMHO the IESG should withdraw the privacy requirement for EPP and allow the existing documents to go forward to PS until such time as the IETF community can get some clear architectural direction and consensus on where we want go. Frankly all of the proposed solutions to the privacy requirement have a strong smell of duct tape, bailing wire and used chewing gum. Yes these things can work but its not a particularly good archichecture in the long term Some of you may remember that I stood up at the plenary in Atlanta and asked the IESG specifically about where IETF is going with privacy issues and I believe it was Steve Bellovin who mentioned that there was ongoing work in this area but it was not ready yet. Well I submit its time ..or at the very least I would suggest that there is consensus for a BOF in SF on "Where is the IETF going with Privacy issues?" >But such a group already exists: W3C's P3P group. P3P can be used for >more than Web sites and they are willing to do what it needs to extend >their framework to registry privacy policies. well that said I'm not sure about timetables... I've personally attended the workshop that W3C had on the future of P3P and given the time it took to get the highly limited and constrained P3P 1.0 out I don't hold out much hope they can be relied on here if timing is a issue. You can all read their final report .. ########## From: Daniel Weitzner <djweitzner@w3.org> Reply-To: djweitzner@w3.org To: public-p3p-ws@w3.org Cc: "w3c-P3P-specification@w3. Org" <w3c-P3P-specification@w3.org>, w3c-p3p-ig@w3.org Subject: P3P Workshop report now available Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 20:58:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) List-Help: <http://www.w3.org/Mail/> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:public-p3p-ws-request@w3.org?subject=unsubscribe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear colleagues, I'm happy to announce that the summary report on the Future of P3P Workshop is now available at: http://www.w3.org/2002/12/18-p3p-workshop-report.html On behalf of Lorrie & myself, thanks to all of you for your thoughtful participation and for preparing the action plans for future work. Those plans are now all linked from the end of the workshop report. The P3P Coordination Group will be looking in detail those and propose to this mailing list draft charter(s) for future P3P work. Any new work will ultimately have to be review by the W3C Advisory Committee, but I believe that we should use this mailing list of workshop participants to develop the proposals together. The workshop report is publicly accessible so feel free to pass along the URL to others who may be interested. Best for a Happy New Year, Danny Weitzner -- Daniel J. Weitzner +1.617.253.8036 (MIT) World Wide Web Consortium +1.202.364.4750 (DC) Technology & Society Domain Leader <djweitzner@w3.org> http://www.w3.org/People/Weitzner.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 Voice +1 571.434.5651 Cell : +1 314.503.0640, Fax: +1 815.333.1237 <mailto:richard@shockey.us> or <mailto:richard.shockey@neustar.biz> <http://www.neustar.biz> ; <http://www.enum.org> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<