RE: Identifiers, Handles and ROID's

["Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>]

Roger,

I'll have to fix the text in 2.7 of epp-06 when dealing with IESG comments
to make it match the schema (long since changed per WG discussion); the text
reflects an earlier approach.  The text that's in there now must've slipped
through -- thanks for catching it.

I'm _not_ going to re-enter the handle/ROID discussion other than saying
that the ROID in the specs and the "globally unique identifier" in the
requirements are intended to be the same thing... ;-)

-Scott- 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Castillo Cortazar [mailto:castillo@nic.mx]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:39 PM
> To: ietf-provreg@cafax.se
> Subject: Identifiers, Handles and ROID's
> 
> 
> Hi everybody.
> I have a few questions about the globally unique identifiers 
> for objects.
> 
> In the reqs. we can read.
> 
> 3.4.1 Object Identification
> ...
>    [2] Object identifiers MUST be globally unique.
> ...
>    [6] An object's identifier MUST be generated and stored 
> when an object
>    is created.
> 
> Nothing about the indentifier being returned to the client.
> 
> Now, in the EPP specs.
> 
> 2.7 Object Identification
> ...
>    Globally unique identifiers can help facilitate object information
>    sharing between repositories.  A globally unique identifier MUST be
>    assigned to every object when the object is created, and the
>    identifier MUST be returned within the response for the 
> command that
>    created the object.
> ...
> 
> Followed by the algorithm to create such identifier.
> 
> But an identifier as described by that algorithm is not 
> returned by the 
> <create> command as described in the specs.
> 
> 
> And more ....
> 
> This could be silly, but I've been reading past year messages 
> on the topic 
> of unique handle generation
> to try to figure out a few things, and I just may need a few 
> clarifications.
> 
> I can see three concepts here:
> 
> - The handle as discussed on the list almost a year ago,
> - The globally unique identifier as can be read in the drafts,
> - The ROID's as returned in the <info> command response.
> 
> Are all these the same thing ?
> 
> The discussed handle is the local part of the globally unique 
> identifier ?
> Are the contact-id and the FQDN for the domains and hosts 
> instances of any 
> of these identifiers ?
> 
> Greetings.
> 
> 
> Roger Castillo Cortazar
> NIC-Mexico http://www.nic.mx
>