To:
ietf-provreg@cafax.se
cc:
deng@pier.cnnic.net.cn, zwh6810@yahoo.com
From:
Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine <brunner@nic-naa.net>
Date:
Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:11:36 -0500
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owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se
Subject:
grrp-reqs-06, 9. Internationalization Considerations
[1] Current Internet standards restrict the encoding of Internet host and domain names to a subset of the 7-bit US-ASCII character set. Lets be specific, rfc1035, and 0x2d,0x30-0x39,0x41-0x5a,0x6a-0x7a. - 0-9 A-Z a-z We may as well mention ASCII case folding, 1035 has a reasonable Note at the end of 2.3.1 Preferred name syntax. Registries and registrars now serve customers whose native languages require encodings other than US-ASCII, which automatically disallows use of those languages when registering host and domain names. Awkward language, what is it that "which" refers to? The "US-ASCII" restricition, first sentence. If the subordinate clause is phrased as a sentence ... Support for internationalized host and domain names will greatly increase world-wide usability of a generic registry registrar protocol, so standards for exchanging internationalized information MUST be considered during the protocol design process. Apple pie, but we don't actually state (or cite) what "internationalized" means, yet, and the jump from "host and domain names" (technical data) to social data (a subset of) "internationalized information" is left as an exercise to the reader. We could state: a. The protocol will support any encoding of technical and/or social data, (code-set independent, or csi) or b. The protocol will support some encodings (list) of technical data, and some, possibly different, encodings (list) of social data, (code-set dependent, or csd) or c. The protocol will not support some encodings (list) of technical data, and will not support some, possibly different, encodings (list) of social data, From Deng Xiang's response we know that UTF8 encodings of technical data is a requirement of a provreg protocol deployed by the .CN ccTLD Registry and Registrars. It is possible that the range of encodings for social data includes GBK and Big5 as well as UTF8. [2] The protocol MUST allow exchange of meta-data associated with objects in formats consistent with current internationalized character encoding and language representation standards. I honestly don't know what this means. If it means code-set identifiers or locale identifiers or something else, we should be more specific (and useful) about "metadata". Every time I hear that word I reach for my RDF. [3] All date and time values specified in a generic registry-registrar protocol MUST be expressed in Universal Coordinated Time. Dates and times MUST include information to represent a four-digit calendar year, a calendar month, a calendar day, hours, minutes, seconds, fractional seconds, and the time zone for Universal Coordinated Time. I suggest we cite iso8601 and pick a specific format, b (UCT, above). I do see a problem however with any "user and/or accounting package friendly" temporal identifier (and we do use time, Scott is going to add a temporal identifer sufficient to support ordering in addition to what is in -06 at the moment). The problem is that objects have temporal properties, and these properties are passed around as operands and as identifiers in a common representation (good) but with no common synchronization mechanism (bad). Anyone for NTP (not for sorting out nano-payments) as a specific requirement for temporal consistency? How about putting an upper bound on clock deltas between provreg entities? I claim it is Feb. 14, 1901. Another possibility is seperating "meta- or technical time" from "social time". The first provreg uses, NTP-esque, the second is in provreg messages. Cheers, Eric P.S. Sent only to provreg, though nominal overlap with idn & whois. References (add cite) [ISO8601] "Data elements and interchange formats -- Information interchange -- Representation of dates and times", 1988. or/and [RFC2030] "Simple Network Time Protocol (SNTP) Version 4 for IPv4, IPv6 and OSI. D. Mills. October 1996. and [insert one or more lists of encoding standards here]