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To: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
cc: Kevin Darcy <kcd@daimlerchrysler.com>, <dnsop@cafax.se>
From: Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:22:51 -0500 (EST)
In-Reply-To: <a05200f2ebaa01c692690@[10.0.1.2]>
Sender: owner-dnsop@cafax.se
Subject: Re: [RETRANSMIT] Re: Radical Surgery proposal: stop doingreversefor IPv6.

Nothing would break with the removal of reverse DNS, as no one is relying
on it for anything.  (Anyone who is relying on it, shouldn't be.)

		--Dean

On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Brad Knowles wrote:

> At 6:18 PM -0500 2003/03/20, Kevin Darcy wrote:
>
> >>          You claim that reverse DNS causes harm.  Can you provide evidence
> >>  for this claim?
> >
> >  The (un-Kerberized) versions of the "r-series" commands harm security
> >  infrastructure, and reverse DNS enables them to function.
>
> 	So, we should break reverse DNS just so that r-commands don't
> work?  Excuse me?!?  Do you recommend killing the patient just so
> that you don't have to deal with their hangnail problem?!?
>
> 	I'm sorry, just because some morons choose to leave themselves
> open to the r-command problem is not sufficient justification for no
> longer doing reverse DNS.  Fix that problem where it exists, namely
> within the set of commands that are enabled by default from the
> vendors, or by updating the "best security practices" documentation
> to suit.
>
> >  Simplistic spam-catching techniques based exclusively on reverse lookups harm
> >  intended mail recipients with their frequent false positives.
>
> 	See above.  This would be like throwing out the whole planet with
> the bath water, not just the baby.
>
> --
> Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
>      -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
>
> GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+
> !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++)
> tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++)
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